S. 1 Ep. 47 – Removing Subconscious Barriers To Elevate Your Business

Taylorr: Welcome to another episode of Technically Speaking! We’re your hosts, Taylorr and Austin, and in this week’s episode, we are talking with renowned hypnotist and peak performance expert Wayne Lee. Wayne’s own journey to excellence has been fueled with an unrelenting passion for empowering people. From a childhood fascination  with magic and visualization, Wayne’s gift and passion for seeing great potential and acting on it have allowed him to grow his career and perform to audiences worldwide, and that’s exactly why we’re talking today about how to remove the self-limiting subconscious barriers getting in the way of bringing your business and your life to the next level. Join us as we talk about the different strategies and tactics we have at our disposal to change the course of our business and life through the power of removing those limiting beliefs. As always, stick around to the end for some amazing resources, and we hope you enjoy this one. Alright, everyone, we are live! Wayne, welcome to the show, my friend! I feel like this has been a long time in the making. 

Wayne: Oh my goodness. Time flies, and it’s so good to see you guys and be back and be conversing here, for sure.

Austin: Yeah. The last time we saw you in person was – or we saw you period, really, for me, at least – was in-person before the world had, like, you know, completely turned. So it’s good to see you again. [cross-talk 00:32] Glad you’re here. 

Wayne: Yeah, always good. 

Taylorr: So, Wayne, I’m curious. We always just love to kick off with a backstory, you know? Especially for the listeners who may not know you personally, like, how did you end up into the speaking space, and, like, what has your journey been like so far? Like how did you get where you are today? 

Wayne: Well, it – when I tell people, they don’t usually believe me because, for the last twenty-five years, I’ve been hypnotizing people to do all sorts of things in regards to funding things, but helping people achieve their goals. But I never set out to intentionally become a hypnotist. I actually was a school teacher and was always fascinated with the power of the mind and the power of the imagination. I think I was a pretty imaginative kid when I was young, and my parents always supported me, you know? Just, you know, “Do what you want to do.” And so part of it – I was becoming a school teacher, and one night I was out at a nightclub watching a hypnosis show. I don’t know if you guys have seen the hypnosis show, but I’ll tell you what – I was young. I was doing my teacher training, and I’m watching this fellow get all these people on stage do some like crazy, hilarious things – in a nightclub, so you could imagine that it was a little bit more adult… material. 

And part of me is going, “This is… this is unbelievable. Like, this is so powerful, like a puppet master, getting these people to dance on cue, not get out of their seats – you name it, it was happening. And so part of me was in disbelief, like, “That’s not real.” And I was there with my girlfriend at the time, and I’m laughing my head off and it wasn’t until he gave a suggestion where he had everybody think they had lost their belly buttons that it became really real for me because people on stage were looking for their belly buttons and it was like, they were in shock but you knew that their belly buttons are right there. And I look over at my girlfriend and there, she was looking for her belly button. So she got hypnotized right beside me, and obviously I brought her, so she wasn’t paid to do this. And there was something in that moment that was like a turning point of fascination, of obsession. “If this is real, like, how does this all work?” 

Now the backstory to that is that one of my great loves in life was the sport of amateur wrestling. So what I knew from amateur wrestling is I wasn’t that great of an athlete, I got beat up when I got into the sport, had a great coach, great trainers. And one of the things that my coach instilled in me was the power of visualization and the power of burning that into your mind and creating that as an intention. And that always served me well. I became a three time Canadian amateur wrestling champion. My goal was actually to make the Olympics, had a very serious neck injury, and through visualization, I also healed my neck. 

So transfer that to seeing this up on stage, this spectacle of what was happening. I was in awe. So, at the time, I studied everything I could. I watched videos. It was a time where I – now that I present to student groups, I say, I went to a place called “the library” where they had books.

Austin: What’s that?

Taylorr: What’s that?

Wayne: Like, early nineties, there was no Internet, right? So I would, I would actually be in a trance, like, reading this stuff. Eight hours would go by and I was just like fixated on it. I was transfixed, and then, lo and behold, I studied and found out hypnosis is really the power of suggestion for people to change their action or their behavior. And I thought, “Well, if that’s true, we’re hypnotizing ourselves every day in life.” And it’s so true. It’s really the art and science of suggestion to influence others or program yourself, and a lot of people just see that it’s so phenomenal. But we also see people in…in the world that we just shake our head, like, “How did they buy into that belief?” 

So most of our programming comes from – now, I’m getting into a little bit of the teaching and the, and the, and how it works. But you know, after hypnotizing, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, very proud to say only three people have never woken up. 

Taylorr: Okay. All right. 

Wayne: Actually, here’s the spiel. Although it appears that I’m putting people to sleep on stage, I’m actually waking them up. 

Austin: Yeah? What do you mean by that?

Wayne: So most people are…are a slave to their fear and their inhibitions and their self-imposed limitations. So getting people to snap out of that is – has been my journey. To finish the loop on the story though, I had watched a lot of motivational speakers. I was always very much inspired by the greats like Jim Roan and philosophy and spirituality, so I always had that as a guiding force not just to go out there and do shows that were funny. But I also knew that being funny and entertaining was the greatest way to teach others, was to get people actually to let go of their own resistance so they’re open to new ideas, and that’s ultimately hypnosis. So my goal from the get-go, when I left teaching and I became a full-time entertainer and speaker, was to – I call it “the Three E’s” – was to entertain, educate, and empower. And “empower” wasn’t me indoctrinating people. It was me showing people how they had that within themselves and they had to own it, and so that’s a large part of the self-imposed limitations. 

A lot of people don’t believe that they can do it, or they don’t believe that they’re good enough, or they don’t believe that they have the inherent abilities. And so that’s always served me well. No matter what avenue or what platform or what stage I was on, it was always a guiding force to entertain, educate, and empower. Whether I was in a nightclub doing some, you know, funny adult shows, there was always an inspirational edge to it. And people say, you know, “That was great. I laughed my head off. You get that thing you did at the end, where you stood on a person thinking that they were a piece of steel? Like that blew my mind!” and they take away that just one thing that can help them move forward, whether it’s inspiration or a tool of how they can focus their mind better. So as you can tell, you probably read my passion right now that it just keeps getting better and better. 

Austin: Yeah. Wow. What a crazy journey to be on. I love that, like you came at it sort of from, like, this dual practical and passionate sense, like you saw that there was a pragmatic way to use this as a tool to improve your life, but you also loved it. And so those two things seem to have been married for you, which I don’t think a lot of people are able to do, really. So I think that’s awesome. 

Wayne: Yeah. And you know, one of the things that I have to say – as we were talking before about, like, making a promise to yourself and a commitment – When I was in the sport of amateur wrestling, there was something… I call it the “W.H.Y.” The W.H.Y. is an acronym for “Wonderful Hearts Yearning.” Sometimes you don’t know why you’re doing it, but there’s a, you know, if you just love it, you do it. And, for whatever reason, I fell in love with the sport of wrestling. Maybe I love winning. Maybe I love the competition. Maybe I love the tech – whatever it was, there was a love there. And so I remember – in grade nine, actually – I said to myself, whatever I was going to do later on in life, I need to love it like I love this sport. And so that was a guide. 

So I think that was – I was blessed in the sense that I recognized that and I let that be the, the guiding force in my life, because even teaching – like when people say, “Well, if this doesn’t work out entertaining and motivating, you can always go back to teaching” – that wasn’t even a part of my makeup. I like, “Burn the bolts.” It was like, “No, I’m going to do this.” So I – and it reinforced intentionality in regards to, when you really put your mind to something – like really put your mind and it’s just not talk, but it’s a full-on commitment – the universe will support you. It’ll conspire. You’ll find the people, places, things, events, opportunities as if by magic, but the magic is you owning it, right? 

Austin: Yeah. [cross-talk 08:24]

Wayne: And it hasn’t always been easy. Trust me, there’s been some major challenges that I’ve had to pivot with, but I never wished it to be easy. I just knew that following my dream, you’re going to probably hit more obstacles because if not, you’re probably hiding behind a wall to some sense.

Austin: Hmm. That’s true. Yeah. I love everything that you’re saying. Okay. So,  I’m super curious. I think –

Wayne: Austin, I got to tell you, even when people don’t love what I’m saying, I hypnotize them to believe. 

Austin: Yeah. Hey, you, you pulled a magical stunt before we got recording here, helping me recall some memories. So yeah, I believe that that’s true. Um, so like, I… I can totally see the benefit, obviously, to everything that you’re talking about here. And I think that anybody that listens to you obviously will, but I also know that there’s a… maybe a hesitancy, let’s say, for some people to even consider a lot of this stuff. And especially as it relates to, like, the “hypnosis” piece. I mean, I think there’s a lot of people who don’t even have a box for what that looks like, and because the unknown is frightening. I imagine that there are people that have some hesitancy there. So, like, from your perspective, having worked with as many people as you have, do you run into that regularly? Where people are very skeptical or hesitant about the participatory experience for how you do what you do? 

Wayne: For sure, and that’s one of the great loves of being able to educate people on that so then, by the end of it, they’ve seen it in a different way. I don’t – my goal is not for people to buy into hypnosis and believe it because, ultimately, most of the perceptions of what it is really, it’s not. It’s not – so for me to dial it down, I… you know, there’s so many common myths about it and, I guess, a lot of stereotypes because of the movies and how people have presented it, that I get that a lot of times. So I’ll walk into an event and I’ll shake somebody’s hand saying, “Hey, I’m Wayne Lee, the hypnotist,” and this is what they do. “Don’t look at me. Get away.”

Taylorr: You’re gonna hypnotize me. 

Wayne: Yeah. Well, I play with it all the time in terms of, you know, just – even what I said about, you know, “Out of hundreds of thousands of people, only three people have never woken up” – It’s a joke that I’m poking fun at that, you know – it gives me a chance to reeducate people on what it is. And when people realize that when they say to themselves, “It’s hard to get up in the morning. I’m not a morning person. I’ll never be able to do it” – when they realize that that’s just as much as a hypnotic command that they’re giving themselves then that I’m giving on stage, then that’s where the magic comes in, the awakening comes in because they’re like – the power of their words to either propel them and use their full potential or to paralyze them and stop them. So that’s what really gets me going. And the participation is – I know that when I walk into a room and I can excite and I can inspire people, it’s a challenge for me. And then when they buy into it, they realize, wow, there’s some benefits to this. Like one hour of hypnosis feels like a great sleep, and that, you know, when people aren’t dancing in life, the metaphor is that it’s not that they can’t dance – Everybody can dance to some sense, some sort of getting up, they’re moving – but most people are afraid of what other people are thinking of them.

And so when you see somebody transform from, “No, I’m not going to dance up here” to becoming like, without hesitation, doing the hippy hippy shake on command like that? It’s like, you’ve got it within you. The only thing that was stopping you is that self-talk, that is the hypnotic command that you’re giving yourself at an unconscious level, because most of our behaviors are driven by our habits, and our habits are all stored in our subconscious, and our habits are a product of our beliefs over and over and over.

Taylorr: Wow. 

Wayne: Hopefully that wasn’t too much for you. [cross-talk 12:11]

Austin: That was awesome: [cross-talk 12:13]

Taylorr: Well, I think a lot of this ties into like – you’re, like, kind of like one of your core value propositions, right? Which is “peak performance.” So like, how does, like… how did you find out, like… were you always on the hunt for helping people hit their peak performance? Or did you start with just, like, the hypnosis thing that you were fascinated by and then kind of drew the dots – connected the dots rather – that this could impact people’s peak performance? Like how did those two things line up for you in your journey? 

Wayne: Yeah, no, great question, Taylorr. First of all, me coming from the athletic background that I had in wrestling, it was inevitable for me to work with athletes, to work with people to better their performance. I was always looking and on the hunt for success, and when the intersection of hypnosis came into me seeing one of the most amazing entertainers as hypnotists that I’d seen, that inspired me, I just knew, “(sigh).” The ability to make people laugh, and, at the back, knowing that there’s this inspiration, and over years – it took years – to really dissect it and understand how to deliver it and how to articulate it. Yet, it was always about – and I think the messaging changed in regards to how I was saying it, like through the branding of that – but it was always about, you know, how do you perform better? 

And ultimately, you know, even back in the early days, it was about, you know, getting these people to perform on stage. All performance first starts in programming, or it’s proceeded by programming. Programming is all the – what you’re saying to yourself, what you’re picturing in your mind’s eye, and ultimately that drives all behavior. So I think from the early get-go, it was always a motivation for me to be doing that, and now even like the movement that I’ve created – called the transform movement – it’s a play on the word “transform.” It’s T-R-A-N-C-E. That’s just another extension of what I’m doing is like I say that, “All transformation happens in trance.” And what I mean by that is that people are swimming in their own self-imposed limitations and they actually believe that’s who they are. And I say, “That’s just a [inaudible 14:17] a belief that you’ve picked up from somebody else or society, no fault of yours.

And when you realize that you have to actually get into a trance – like, relax your mind and distance yourself from that thought – then you realize that you become the thinker of that phone. You’re much more than that thought. It’s beyond belief, and then how does that translate into performance? Well, today we’ve got more technology, more strategies to know how to do something. It’s not about doing another “doing” strategy. It’s about taking action on what we know to be true and moving forward with it. And that’s performance. And a lot of people are waiting for the, “how.” “Well, I need to know how to do this. I need it.” No, you don’t. It starts with the dream. It starts with the vision, and then that intention, that commitment, that promise will then start to open up this portal, this door of infinite possibilities. Now that sounds a little metaphysical. You can tell that I love that aspect of what I do. Yet, on the practical reality side, doesn’t matter if it’s a corporation, doesn’t matter if it’s a mom or a dad. The problem is never the problem. It’s the thinking that’s the problem. 

Taylorr: Wow. I feel like you just unlocked something for me, honestly, Wayne. Like one of the common issues – I’m going to be real vulnerable here for a second. So we’re all business owners here. We understand the complexities that it takes to run a business, grow a business, all the moving pieces, the tech, the strategies, like there’s just – we’re inundated a lot of the time. And for me, as we were growing SpeakerFlow, I completely left all of my best practices, taking care of myself, just completely aside because “if I just do, do, do, do, do, we’ll see the results. More time equals more productivity, more effort, more money” – whatever the “more” situation was. And it wasn’t until I kind of hit like a bottom of sorts where I realized, “I really gotta take care of myself.” 

So I started working out more and spacing my – keeping distance from challenging problems that we were trying to solve, so rather than just trying to sit and work through those problems, I would distance myself and try and make space for things. And then, all of a sudden, I mean, maybe an hour or two goes by that “trance” state, right? Where you’re working out or you’re sitting by a lake or whatever it might be, and you just have a solution all of a sudden to that problem. And it wasn’t – I mean, to be perfectly honest – it wasn’t until those experiences that I realized that distancing yourself from the things that you’re thinking about and mulling over and giving yourself space… I mean, it quite literally transforms your behavior with your relationship between yourself and your business or your personal relationships or whatever else that you’re, you’re working on. And I never really correlated that that was because of a trance-like state, becoming the thinker of that thought rather than the doer of it. That was really concrete for me. 

Wayne: Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that ‘cause that makes so much sense. And it also validates, like – so many of the experiences that the people that I work with is that they’re so inundated with more and doing it that they forget about what’s important, or the fact that there’s this holistic nature. Say, for instance, health. If you don’t have the vibrancy and the energy flowing through your veins and beaming you in the moments that you need to be dealing with stuff, then you’re going to just let go. Then you’re just going to give up more, and it’s going to lead to one of two things: a ton of frustration or burnout, right? 

And so I completely relate to that whole aspect, and there’s a lot of people that you know, over COVID here, that I’ve coached and they’re in this stressed out or overwhelmed state. And they realize that if they just do more, then that will disappear, and actually it’s – they’re fighting their own state of flow, that own state of alignment, where they have to take that space. They have to, you know – even something as simple as closing your eyes and starting to see where you want to be and who you need to become – most people don’t do that because they’re taking all the past and they’re reliving it over and over and over. And if you look at some of the greatest thinkers – in terms of the innovators and the creators – and you ask them, ultimately, it’s going to come down to that they have a bigger vision of their future than of their past. They’re continually making their future vision greater than their past. And that’s why sometimes like – ‘cause like I don’t even remember what I do because I’m moving forward, right? Like, so it’s the little things that make the difference, but first it’s taken time, like you said to distance yourself from, from the stuff you’re swimming in.

Austin: I think that like, there’s a sort of a natural tendency that – especially entrepreneurs – but I think a lot of people in a lot of different instances in life have where it feels like taking time to step back and let yourself detach from all the stuff feels like, I don’t know… almost like quitting, like we’re giving up when facing a challenge or a difficult thing. And, like, I think the reality is, like, that’s just not true. I mean, everything that you just said indicates, like, when things get really tough, sometimes that may be the best time to take a step back and see how you can look at things a little bit differently, right? Like it almost makes me think of, like, the cliche of shower thoughts, right? Like you’re in the shower doing nothing, and all of a sudden you get the burst of inspiration. And it’s because like, for at least that moment you’re detaching yourself from the day-to-day stuff, and regardless of whatever challenges or difficulties or problems are going on, like that’s not the thing that you’re consumed by, let’s say. Am I hearing you correctly? Is that analogy right from your eyes? 

Wayne: It is because most of us have been conditioned – especially in the Western world – that we need to be busy. We need to be busy for the sake of being busy because busy also has a reward to it. It’s a status symbol. Yet, the real reward should be joy. And so asking people, “Okay. Being busy, how much joy do you experience in that?” So that’s a great litmus test. I think, you know, it’s a new model of how we’re thinking, and if you look at some of the best companies and the greatest, most productive companies, they take a lot of time for their employees to be in that creative state, to be in that natural state where they aren’t swimming in, fighting their, you know, self-imposed limitations.

Now, I’m not saying anything against effort. Effort is, like, extremely important, but you think about the amount of effort people go into when they say, “Well, I want to build my business, but I just don’t have the money. I just don’t have the time,” they completely contradicted themselves. And so either one of two things have to change: They have to change the way they’re thinking, or they have to let go of what they want. Because ultimately – if you think about it – like when are you going to have more time or what are you going to have more money? It happens now. You make it happen. So I talk about, like, people getting extremely aligned. Like, stop the grind – ‘cause the grind is usually people fighting themselves – and get super aligned, and those self-care practices and meditating and moving the body that will exponentially accelerate your performance and what you’re creating. But a lot of times people won’t let themselves take a break. 

You know, I had a client that – he grew up and his dad was always busy, so he equated, – and this is how we form beliefs – he equated that you have to be busy in order to be successful. You can’t even take a break. So here was a fellow I’m coaching that wanted to become healthy and yet, at the same time, he’s doing workouts, but he’s beating himself up because he won’t let himself recover. And we also know that sleep and recovery is one of the most profound things in getting yourself to grow.So the logic is there, too. It’s just like if people examine, like, their patterns, like how is that working out for them? It’ll always lead back to internally. They got to transform from the inside out. 

Austin: Yeah. Oh, I love what you said about that. I’m curious – I want to sort of tangent here, because what we’re talking about right now is this, like, state of stepping away, like sleeping, meditating, things like this, that, that give us a break from the hustle, right? But I know for you – like we were stalking your Instagram a little bit – and it looks like you’ve been running some stairs lately, which is a real challenging thing. So I’m curious, like, doing difficult things like that – does that have a role to play in it as well? A more active means of, you know, stepping away from the grind or the challenges of everyday life?

Wayne: Yeah, like I have a “remember” tool that I teach people where it’s like an acronym. M E M B is an R N E ER, on the end. It’s “Movement Energizes My Body. Movement Energizes My Being.” So the greatest sense of – when you were talking about the shower analogy – one of the greatest experiences that I have in regards to downloading ideas and coming up with creative ideas and just feeling overall inspired is when I’m running. And so, when I’m doing stairs, it’s almost like – I don’t look at it as, like, “I have to do this.” It’s almost like this is such a ritual for me because I know I’m going to stay in shape. I’m going to feel good. I’m going to be optimized. Plus all these ideas – like I run with my phone and then I’m like writing down all these ideas.

So I’ve linked the fact that I go out there – which I did 30 years ago, training for wrestling – and that discipline has now translated into something as a profound activity that’s like sacred for me to do so. You see, you can – you can hear how important it is for me. I don’t do it because I should be doing it. I do it because I’ve linked so many great meanings to that, and the fact that I can do stairs in 20 minutes and I’ve done my workout. Wow. That’s awesome. It’s leveraging my time, too. So I also think that when you do something really hard, you’re actually training yourself to realize that life is going to be hard, and, when you go through that, you’re going to build up a greater sense of comfort in doing that. 

Wrestling? I’ll tell you right now – when I went to this camp in Oregon, [inaudible 24:05] Wrestling Camp – it was the, it was the toughest 10 days of my life to this day. I haven’t done anything tougher physically, but with physical comes mental. We were working out four hours a day, and I’ll tell you what it did. One thing: it prepared me for anything else that’s tough, because if people have this false belief that life should be easy, they’re setting themselves up for failure. And they’re actually sending that out and forecasting that as, “Well, I’m just going to stay nice and comfortable.” That’s what it’s not about. So, that’s my answer to that. 

Austin: That’s a great answer. I reminds me of, like, the Navy seals with buds – like it’s the same kind of thing, right? They put these people in extremely difficult circumstances, and physically there’s benefits to it, but it’s really about the mental preparation for other difficult things that are yet to come, you know? And if you can cross that threshold, then when you do run into a challenge, like, maybe it’s as bad, but maybe it’s not. And maybe you’re going to be able to quickly and easily and confidently move through that challenge because you’ve already experienced worse, in some ways, and “self-imposed worse” in that instance.

Wayne: Exactly. I know one of the things in my life is – I had an employee steal a massive amount of money. Like, at the time, like, it was six figures, and it just hit us like, “Oh my goodness. Like, wow.” Dealing with that situation, I look at every foundational belief that I had to deal with that, and it came down to how I was programmed and going, “What’s next?” You know? “How is this serving me?” I mean, sure, I had my moments, of course, and were – but you know, any of those adversities that we all have – and trust me, if you haven’t had one of those yet, you will. It may not be stealing, you know, somebody – but you’re going to have that. It’s part of life. It’s part of the journey. So it’s how do you then not think about – it’s how do you program yourself? And that comes from repetitive rituals and routines. Me doing the stairs, you know – when I went on a bike ride with the family other day, it’s like, no. I just couldn’t stop because all of that has prepared me for these other journeys that I’m doing.

Austin: Yeah. 

Taylorr: Yeah. Well, when you overcome challenges like that, it’s empowering, like, you believe in yourself more, which has to strengthen your subconscious beliefs about yourself. When you’re constantly on that, you know, quote unquote “growth edge,” where you’re constantly challenging yourself, or when a new problem arises, you take it head on and just move forward without mulling over it too much. Like, I think that empowers you to feel, like, confident that you can handle the next problem that comes up, and with that repetition, that more empowerment, and you really are able to start creating the future that you want for yourself. You know, one of the things that I can’t help, but ask – because I mean, I think about this sometimes even preparing for this podcast episode – I wonder to myself, like “What… how do I discover my own subconscious limiting beliefs without having a Wayne in my back pocket, letting me know, like, “Nope, don’t do that, Taylorr. Think about this differently, you know? So, like, how – can we, first off, as individuals, discover our own subconscious limiting beliefs? And, if so, how, how can we start to tune into those so that we can then course correct? 

Wayne: For sure. So the simple answer to that is where in your life are you experiencing the most stress and overwhelm? And so usually one of two things is happening. One, you have some desires that you want to achieve, and let’s just put it in the three pillars that I think anything can fall into: health, wealth, and relationships, you know? If somebody wants to build a business and they’re looking to increase their wealth, their livelihood in there, and there’s a lot of stress and overwhelm in there. The stress and overwhelm is just a symptom of the cause of not being aligned. And when people – you know, people can even challenge me on this, saying, “Well, you know, but you’re already at this place,” but everybody starts out somewhere. So even a person starting out a business – they have to have a vision and they have to have the possibility of it happening.

And the more that they’re thinking in those terms, they’re going to be in alignment, where they’re feeling – and I call it more of that flow state. So you’re going to feel the joy, the excitement. You’re gonna feel the empowerment. You’re gonna feel happy. You’re gonna feel relief. So a high level of stress and overwhelm is a great place to start to – where those self-limiting imposed limitations are of beliefs. So say, for instance, if somebody’s using the excuse or self-imposed limitation that there’s not enough time and they want to work out, then there’s a great deal of stress because there’s a contrast or a counter of, “I want to do this, but…” So I’ve just given another tool here is that when somebody uses the word “but,” there’s also usually a self-imposed limitation or the word “can’t” or the word “try.” So now it goes down to where are people experiencing that stress and overwhelm? Underneath that are usually their self-imposed limitations ‘cause if they really want something and they have thoughts that line up against it, they’re going to feel a sense of relief. 

Austin: So I hear you. I’m curious, like, do you find that there are instances where those butts or cans are justified, and how do you make that determination, if so? Or maybe they’re not ever justified, and there’s always a solution if we step outside of our frame. 

Wayne: Yeah. Well, one of the things that I like to talk about are the two core beliefs that are codes of transformation. And that are pretty – they’ve served me in my life and I, and I use them in the presentations and, and getting people to shift – is that anything is possible and that you’re unlimited. So, if somebody wants something bad enough – and I know there’s exceptions. People will come at me and they’ll say, “Oh, but you know, how can you play, you know, basketball? How can you be a professional basketball player if you’re this?” Well, who was the one that, that Spud, Spud Webb, right? That ended up – there’s always, you know, like if you put it out there and you think about it and you really want something bad enough – I believe that we all have that sole mission, something within our heart that we want. 

And so I think anything is possible. You’re unlimited and you can always learn, or you can always leverage and get other people to help you with this. And, in that case scenario, what people are looking for is instant gratification right now, they’re looking for – they want it now, and they’re not willing to put in the time, energy and effort. So I come from that frame of reference is that if you’re using those words, let’s dissect that. And, more than likely, 99% of the time, it’s going to be something that isn’t that important to you if you’re not gonna commit to it and that you can always change that. Self-love and belief that’s there.

Taylorr: Wow. That’s a perfect summary, Wayne. I feel like I’ve learned so much just in this conversation. This is why we love doing these shows because bringing these amazing stories and experts like yourself to come in and educate us. So thank you so much for sharing some of your wisdom, your thoughts. I mean, I feel like I have some tools in my tool belt now to help identify some of these things when they pop up. And I mean, based on everything you’re saying – and just based on what I know about your experience too – it’s not that everything is perfect. It’s just your ability to work through it and find solutions to greater problems becomes a little bit easier because you have a deeper understanding of yourself. I mean, am I reading that right?

Wayne: You are, and I will just add to it, Taylorr, in the sense of, people – I think that what trips most people up is they think that they should be somewhere else or they should be farther along, or they should feel a different way. And when people surrender to the fact that they’re already whole, complete, and perfect – and I use the word perfect intentionally because a lot of people think perfect is a certain way. It’s actually you right now, warts and all, accepting it, and that’s why you’re here. It wouldn’t have been any different or it wouldn’t have – because you are you right now, and accepting that right where you are – ground zero right here – allows you to create from choice and then go, “I’m going to create, because I want it not because I should or have to.” So I really believe it’s about freedom, freedom of creating that business, freedom of weighing your ideal weight, freedom of picking whoever you want. Like that’s it. So many people are separated just because of their point of how they’re orienting, where they’re at. 

Taylorr: Wow. Super insightful stuff, Wayne, thank you so much for coming on the show. Austin’s over there, applauding. Rightfully so. 

Wayne: My pleasure.

Taylorr: As you know, Wayne, we’re all about creating value for our audience, which you have done tremendously here today. But what are some of the things you’re working on right now that our listeners can benefit from? 

Wayne: For sure. So we have – my wife and I have created what we call the “21 Day Subconscious Reset Challenge.” Cool thing about it – it’s for anyone that wants to better themselves or handle the challenges or hit some of their big goals. And it really helps people reset the subconscious to do just that, to deal with those self-imposed limitations and own your confidence. And the cool thing is it’s 21 days, but it’s only 10 minutes a day of the short lessons with the transformational task. The results have been profound. The website is, is there in regards to the, the link there. So it is something that, we’ve already had hundreds of people come through and if it resonates in terms of what I’ve said today, then we’d love to have you on it, for sure. 

Taylorr: Certainly. Yeah. We’ll make sure those links are on the show notes. So, everyone, be sure to go check that out, and, hey – if you liked this episode, don’t forget to rate it, subscribe to it. And if you want more awesome resources like this, go to speakerflow.com/resources.